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FinestKindinTN

Email: ryvan@aol.com

Posted:
1/5/2018 11:03:35 AM

Charles, Frank, and Sidney

An observation from an episode on TV Land last night (sorry too lazy to look up the title). Frank is telling Sidney about his wife changing; It popped in my head that both Frank and Charles had considerable disdain for psychiatry, even though they both ended up telling Sidney their problems. Frank and Charles were opposites in most ways, but this was one thing they held in common.

sparky58

Posted:
1/5/2018 11:40:31 AM

FinestKindinTN wrote:
An observation from an episode on TV Land last night (sorry too lazy to look up the title). Frank is telling Sidney about his wife changing; It popped in my head that both Frank and Charles had considerable disdain for psychiatry, even though they both ended up telling Sidney their problems. Frank and Charles were opposites in most ways, but this was one thing they held in common.

Just beacuse they say they don't like it, doesn't mean that they don't believe it. I really think that this is just a "Faux pau" that let's the audience see more into their character. They deny believing in psychiartry so their character can "save face".

Is part of the joke the we get to see that even though THEY don't believe, we as the audience get to see that deep down, their characters really DO believe!

phantomeagle

Posted:
1/6/2018 8:57:24 PM

Frank and Sidney.

That was in "Dear Sigmund". Where Sid describes the characters at the 4077th. He came to play poker, but stayed for two weeks, due to a patient he lost. Practical Jokes, Hawkeye showing a pilot the ugliness of war, and more.

And Charles was in "War of Nerves". This time Sid comes in injured, with a wry smile on his face as Hawkeye turns to find him on the bus. Sid comes in with a minor head injury. Everyone is going nuts because of no rest and tons of work.

Charles and Margaret are having a battle because Charles didn't touch his nose.
Klinger starts carrying Radar's teddy bear, and is worried he's really going crazy, since he's looking at women and worried about what they're wearing.
Radar is worried because of his teddy bear.
The entire camp is building a bonfire, much to the chagrin of Potter, until Sid says that it's a great

Both great episodes.

FinestKindinTN

Email: ryvan@aol.com

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1/7/2018 12:52:15 PM

sparky58 wrote:
Just beacuse they say they don't like it, doesn't mean that they don't believe it. I really think that this is just a "Faux pau" that let's the audience see more into their character. They deny believing in psychiartry so their character can "save face".

Is part of the joke the we get to see that even though THEY don't believe, we as the audience get to see that deep down, their characters really DO believe!

Maybe they believed in it, but just didn't think they needed it - they were just fine and didn't need any help. One of man's best deceptions is thinking that we're better than we really are.

AB

Posted:
1/21/2018 3:37:07 PM

Definitely something they had in common. It makes sense, though. Both were arrogant, though Charles had more class and dignity (not to mention more reason to have a swell head!) and eventually softened somewhat. It stands to reason that they'd look down on psychiatry, or at the very least, consider themselves to be in no need of such help.

FinestKindinTN

Email: ryvan@aol.com

Posted:
1/22/2018 1:44:53 AM

Allan Arbus interview

In an interview I saw, maybe in one of the anniversary specials, he told of people who would talk to him in public, like in an airport, and tell him their problems like they thought he was a real psychiatrist. I thought that was a hoot; although I will admit he played one well.

Anyone else remember that interview?

AB

Posted:
1/22/2018 3:06:07 AM

I seem to remember him mentioning that during the 30th Anniversary special. I imagine it happens with a lot of actors, but he did play the part very convincingly.

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